tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post878465498684903756..comments2024-01-04T16:42:00.771-08:00Comments on My Little Corner of the World: "I'm Not Doing Bond." -- Hugh JackmanDavid Wagnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07594244647778062784noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post-88714015495937540162012-04-13T16:09:56.622-07:002012-04-13T16:09:56.622-07:00Dave, I never meant to suggest that you were impug...Dave, I never meant to suggest that you were impugning. It is just the idea, in a sense, that does, however.<br /><br />Perhaps our sinning was a 50/50 proposition, but there could never be a true love relationship between God and man if we were not 'free' to reject Him. I think that idea is enough to explain the whole deal. <br /><br />Nice 'meeting' you! MikeMillerwriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00362226574347191886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post-40129650916513001672012-04-13T12:11:36.915-07:002012-04-13T12:11:36.915-07:00Mike: I certainly wasn't trying to impugn God&...Mike: I certainly wasn't trying to impugn God's honor. I'm just saying it's hard for me to believe He would create A&E without defense against sin and drop them into a paradise with a tempter, and then be surprised when they sin. It makes more sense to me that A&E falling into sin was part of His grand plan... perhaps the "mystery of gospel" (Christ in you, the hope of glory Col 1:27) could not have come about any other way. Maybe He needed a sin-tainted, cut-off environment to provide the right "ground" for the seed to take root (so to speak). I'm sure if He could have created us "one in Christ" from the get go, He would have. There must be a pretty strong reason He took mankind on this painful detour to begin with.<br /><br />Anyway, thanks for the blog links, I'll drop back in soon.<br /><br />DaveDavid Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07594244647778062784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post-56794790222111071702012-04-13T09:51:50.287-07:002012-04-13T09:51:50.287-07:00I don't think I would impugn God's charact...I don't think I would impugn God's character (is that really how that's spelled?) that way, by suggesting he essentially forced A & E to sin. Personally, I know the nature of making a choice. Yes, it is way too easy to make the bad choice of disobedience, but the right choice is always possible.<br /><br />And this NT verse makes it clear:<br /><br />No temptation[a] has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted[b] beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted,[c] he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.<br /><br />And in James we are told that:<br /><br />When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;<br /><br />No. I can't see how God forced sin into the world so He could implement an unnecessary scheme of salvation.<br /><br />Yes, I have two blogs, one of which you visited I think.<br />http://millervents.blogspot.com/<br /><br />and <br /><br />http://millerwrites.blogspot.com/Mikehttp://millerwrites.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post-22956258278623836842012-04-12T19:35:31.021-07:002012-04-12T19:35:31.021-07:00Logan: Pretty good summary, I think... however, it...Logan: Pretty good summary, I think... however, it seems like it should go back even further, as far as why God even wanted to create the earth and mankind to begin with, and why He let sin infect it... I mean, what is He after, exactly? It definitely must be more than just purposely created an unprepared race so they could fail, just so He could save them... that alone doesn't really make much sense... what's He up to?<br /><br />Rory: Glad you like that site. Great pictures over there.<br /><br />Lisa: I guess I'll go back and edit that in... thanks for the idea...<br /><br />Mike: Do you think it was even remotely possible for Adam and Eve to have avoided sin? Seems to me like it was a given, and all part of God's Big Picture Plan... but I guess that's grist for another discussion. Thanks for stopping by... tried to backtrack to your blog to return the favor, but hit a dead-end... do you have one?David Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07594244647778062784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post-5994368216014291512012-04-12T13:30:15.103-07:002012-04-12T13:30:15.103-07:00Great post Dave! I like Logan's summary answe...Great post Dave! I like Logan's summary answer to your question, but the 'story of the Bible' could be shortened even more by saying 'It is the story of God saving mankind.'<br /><br />Just think. If Adam and Eve had not sinned, and necessitated a salvation in the first place, there would never have been any need for the Bible to be written. God would always have 'walked with us in the Garden' and all the history we might like to know would have been shared directly, either by God Himself, or by the people (eternally living) who had been there!Millerwriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00362226574347191886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post-70662216571377678902012-04-11T22:36:33.487-07:002012-04-11T22:36:33.487-07:00I thought for sure J-Day would be JOHN DAY! =)
J,...I thought for sure J-Day would be JOHN DAY! =)<br /><br />J, K, L, M .... John, Kate, Lisa, Marla.... coincidence? I think not! <br /><br />Great post bro!<br />LisaRug Chickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14904043914485812484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post-39711481697013751492012-04-11T13:48:12.434-07:002012-04-11T13:48:12.434-07:00That is a remarkable picture, however. A small par...<i>That is a remarkable picture, however. A small part of the gold I've mined over at All That Is Interesting. You really need to bookmark that site and stop by every third day or so. Always great photos there. Trust me.</i><br /><br />Incredible! I'm definitely bookmarking this!Rory L. Aronskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18173518202611695171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9010663855553878264.post-44515691263799488642012-04-11T06:46:36.391-07:002012-04-11T06:46:36.391-07:00Challenge accepted!
Summarizing the bible like a ...Challenge accepted!<br /><br />Summarizing the bible like a novel is pretty simple. Man once had communion with God, but through his disobedience, Man was forced out of paradise. But Man cannot sin against God without repercussions, and the affects of Man's first sin are devastating. Not only is the immortal man now changed into something mortal, but the entire world itself is cursed, tainted by the rebellion. But the story does not end there. God, for some reason, truly loves Man and His creation, and He establishes a way for Man to be redeemed from his sin and return again to communion with God. The story of the bible is the story of Man's redemption, with the majority of the arc showing that we are incapable of it on our own. At the crucial point, after thousands of years of rebellion and failures, the Messiah, the long awaited and prophesied Savior, finally appears with a message of redemption. The climax is brutal, ugly, and horrific, and it seems that Man has utterly lost the chance to return. But this Messiah, the Christ, has one last action left in Him, one that will completely change the world.<br /><br />I'd go something like that. To me, the entire bible culminates at the cross and the empty tomb. Everything in the OT points to it, where every action can somehow be related to Jesus and His life. Everything after it reflects back to the events, as that is where victory was won. <br /><br />As a side note, and continuing with your fantasy observations, is Jesus' resurrection the very definition of a <i>Deus ex machina</i>? I suppose in its true sense, no, as He had been prophesied and hinted at continually throughout the OT and His coming was expected. But then at face value, it sure could read like it.<br /><br />Great post, Dave. Always thought-provoking.logankstewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12269634215857320344noreply@blogger.com